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		<title>By: Bootstrapper &#187; Carnival of Business and Entrepreneurship #9</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bootstrapper &#187; Carnival of Business and Entrepreneurship #9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Healy presents Business Growth: A Tale of One Client, Three Copywriters, and a Space Ad posted at Ryan M. Healy. Here is a story of a client who wanted to grow his business through [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 4 entrepreneur Blog Carnival VII &#124; 4 entrepreneur</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>4 entrepreneur Blog Carnival VII &#124; 4 entrepreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Healy presents A Tale of One Client, Three Copywriters, and a Space Ad posted at Ryan M. Healy, saying, &#8220;When a business owner wanted to grow his business, he hired [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 13th Carnival of Making REAL Money: February 17th, 2008 &#124; Making REAL Money Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>13th Carnival of Making REAL Money: February 17th, 2008 &#124; Making REAL Money Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Healy presents A Tale of One Client, Three Copywriters, and a Space Ad posted at Ryan M. Healy, saying, &#8220;How do you grow your business through advertising? Simple. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: thursdaybram.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Business of Freelance Writing Carnival, Edition 7</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>thursdaybram.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Business of Freelance Writing Carnival, Edition 7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] M. Healy presents A Tale of One Client, Three Copywriters, and a Space Ad posted at Ryan M. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13519</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ryan,

Interesting story...I&#039;ve had similar experiences and they can be awfully frustrating, but when it comes down to it - we as copywriters just gotta do our job and let them do theirs.

I recommend things to my clients all the time that I am absolutely certain would make them more money and increase conversion rates, but if they don&#039;t follow through with it, that&#039;s their loss.

By the way, you mentioned a report about getting copywriting clients but I couldn&#039;t seem to find it anywhere. Could you pass on the link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ryan,</p>
<p>Interesting story&#8230;I&#8217;ve had similar experiences and they can be awfully frustrating, but when it comes down to it &#8211; we as copywriters just gotta do our job and let them do theirs.</p>
<p>I recommend things to my clients all the time that I am absolutely certain would make them more money and increase conversion rates, but if they don&#8217;t follow through with it, that&#8217;s their loss.</p>
<p>By the way, you mentioned a report about getting copywriting clients but I couldn&#8217;t seem to find it anywhere. Could you pass on the link?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M. Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M. Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chad - I see it the same way. We do what we can do; it&#039;s up to the client to follow-through on our suggestions.

You can learn about the report I mentioned at:

http://www.getclientsreport.com

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chad &#8211; I see it the same way. We do what we can do; it&#8217;s up to the client to follow-through on our suggestions.</p>
<p>You can learn about the report I mentioned at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getclientsreport.com">http://www.getclientsreport.com</a></p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M. Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M. Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chad - I see it the same way. We do what we can do; it&#039;s up to the client to follow-through on our suggestions.

You can learn about the report I mentioned at:

http://www.getclientsreport.com

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chad &#8211; I see it the same way. We do what we can do; it&#8217;s up to the client to follow-through on our suggestions.</p>
<p>You can learn about the report I mentioned at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getclientsreport.com">http://www.getclientsreport.com</a></p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad &#124; ProFreelancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ryan,

Interesting story...I&#039;ve had similar experiences and they can be awfully frustrating, but when it comes down to it - we as copywriters just gotta do our job and let them do theirs.

I recommend things to my clients all the time that I am absolutely certain would make them more money and increase conversion rates, but if they don&#039;t follow through with it, that&#039;s their loss.

By the way, you mentioned a report about getting copywriting clients but I couldn&#039;t seem to find it anywhere. Could you pass on the link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ryan,</p>
<p>Interesting story&#8230;I&#8217;ve had similar experiences and they can be awfully frustrating, but when it comes down to it &#8211; we as copywriters just gotta do our job and let them do theirs.</p>
<p>I recommend things to my clients all the time that I am absolutely certain would make them more money and increase conversion rates, but if they don&#8217;t follow through with it, that&#8217;s their loss.</p>
<p>By the way, you mentioned a report about getting copywriting clients but I couldn&#8217;t seem to find it anywhere. Could you pass on the link?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M. Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M. Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph - I agree: Why guess when spending that much money on a space ad? Oh, well. It seems many clients do similarly foolish things.

Jennifer - Thanks for relating your story. I actually attended my caucus on February 5. But before I did, I read as much as I could about the process, how to become a precinct captain, etc. I did NOT want a watered down page; I wanted nitty-gritty details. As you said, I bet the longer copy would&#039;ve worked better.

Cheryl - I agree. Best to learn your lesson and move on. No sense trying to change the past.

Ken - I price based on the project and the value I deliver. I don&#039;t really have a rate card, although I have a general idea of what I&#039;d like to make on an hourly basis. Sometimes you can find out what the going rate is simply by asking the client. Most clients are honest and will tell you. I did that recently with a client for whom I wrote a full-page space ad for the New York Times. I also provide more advice on pricing in my report about how to get copywriting clients.

Perry - Asking the right questions during the interview is critical. Thanks for pointing that out. And I&#039;m glad you like the new blog theme. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph &#8211; I agree: Why guess when spending that much money on a space ad? Oh, well. It seems many clients do similarly foolish things.</p>
<p>Jennifer &#8211; Thanks for relating your story. I actually attended my caucus on February 5. But before I did, I read as much as I could about the process, how to become a precinct captain, etc. I did NOT want a watered down page; I wanted nitty-gritty details. As you said, I bet the longer copy would&#8217;ve worked better.</p>
<p>Cheryl &#8211; I agree. Best to learn your lesson and move on. No sense trying to change the past.</p>
<p>Ken &#8211; I price based on the project and the value I deliver. I don&#8217;t really have a rate card, although I have a general idea of what I&#8217;d like to make on an hourly basis. Sometimes you can find out what the going rate is simply by asking the client. Most clients are honest and will tell you. I did that recently with a client for whom I wrote a full-page space ad for the New York Times. I also provide more advice on pricing in my report about how to get copywriting clients.</p>
<p>Perry &#8211; Asking the right questions during the interview is critical. Thanks for pointing that out. And I&#8217;m glad you like the new blog theme. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M. Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/a-tale-of-one-client-three-copywriters-and-a-space-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13518</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M. Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph - I agree: Why guess when spending that much money on a space ad? Oh, well. It seems many clients do similarly foolish things.

Jennifer - Thanks for relating your story. I actually attended my caucus on February 5. But before I did, I read as much as I could about the process, how to become a precinct captain, etc. I did NOT want a watered down page; I wanted nitty-gritty details. As you said, I bet the longer copy would&#039;ve worked better.

Cheryl - I agree. Best to learn your lesson and move on. No sense trying to change the past.

Ken - I price based on the project and the value I deliver. I don&#039;t really have a rate card, although I have a general idea of what I&#039;d like to make on an hourly basis. Sometimes you can find out what the going rate is simply by asking the client. Most clients are honest and will tell you. I did that recently with a client for whom I wrote a full-page space ad for the New York Times. I also provide more advice on pricing in my report about how to get copywriting clients.

Perry - Asking the right questions during the interview is critical. Thanks for pointing that out. And I&#039;m glad you like the new blog theme. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph &#8211; I agree: Why guess when spending that much money on a space ad? Oh, well. It seems many clients do similarly foolish things.</p>
<p>Jennifer &#8211; Thanks for relating your story. I actually attended my caucus on February 5. But before I did, I read as much as I could about the process, how to become a precinct captain, etc. I did NOT want a watered down page; I wanted nitty-gritty details. As you said, I bet the longer copy would&#8217;ve worked better.</p>
<p>Cheryl &#8211; I agree. Best to learn your lesson and move on. No sense trying to change the past.</p>
<p>Ken &#8211; I price based on the project and the value I deliver. I don&#8217;t really have a rate card, although I have a general idea of what I&#8217;d like to make on an hourly basis. Sometimes you can find out what the going rate is simply by asking the client. Most clients are honest and will tell you. I did that recently with a client for whom I wrote a full-page space ad for the New York Times. I also provide more advice on pricing in my report about how to get copywriting clients.</p>
<p>Perry &#8211; Asking the right questions during the interview is critical. Thanks for pointing that out. And I&#8217;m glad you like the new blog theme. Thanks!</p>
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