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		<title>By: shelhorowitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I&#039;m absolutely delighted to see that someone who I think of as fairly conservative agrees with my perspective that going to war after 9/11 was the wrong response. We had an incredible opportunity to not only build our standing in the world but to do more for world peace than at any moment before or since, and the Bush administration totally blew it. Messages of turning back hatred with love, of being a model for the world, of &quot;avenging&quot; those cowardly acts by creating a climate where no one in the future would have a reason to hate the US, builder of schools, hospitals, food-self-sufficiency projects, etc., would have led to very different outcomes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, in my latest book, Guerrilla Marketing Goes Green (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson), I discuss, in one of the later chapters, what that kind of ideal world might look like and how we could still get there. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to disagree, though, when you say he was elected, twice. The election irregularities in both 2000 and 2004 were staggering, and we will never know who *really* won either of those elections, but my strong sense is it wasn&#039;t Bush, either time. 94,000 people were denied access to the ballot in Florida in 2000 (never mind the hanging chads and false Buchanan votes and all the rest of it), most of them likely-Democratic voters. Similar problems of a smaller scale but still more than enough to swing the count took place in Ohio four years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I&#39;m absolutely delighted to see that someone who I think of as fairly conservative agrees with my perspective that going to war after 9/11 was the wrong response. We had an incredible opportunity to not only build our standing in the world but to do more for world peace than at any moment before or since, and the Bush administration totally blew it. Messages of turning back hatred with love, of being a model for the world, of &#8220;avenging&#8221; those cowardly acts by creating a climate where no one in the future would have a reason to hate the US, builder of schools, hospitals, food-self-sufficiency projects, etc., would have led to very different outcomes.</p>
<p>BTW, in my latest book, Guerrilla Marketing Goes Green (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson), I discuss, in one of the later chapters, what that kind of ideal world might look like and how we could still get there. <a href="http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com">http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com</a></p>
<p>I have to disagree, though, when you say he was elected, twice. The election irregularities in both 2000 and 2004 were staggering, and we will never know who *really* won either of those elections, but my strong sense is it wasn&#39;t Bush, either time. 94,000 people were denied access to the ballot in Florida in 2000 (never mind the hanging chads and false Buchanan votes and all the rest of it), most of them likely-Democratic voters. Similar problems of a smaller scale but still more than enough to swing the count took place in Ohio four years later.</p>
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		<title>By: shelhorowitz</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/forgiveness-age-of-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-9185</link>
		<dc:creator>shelhorowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I&#039;m absolutely delighted to see that someone who I think of as fairly conservative agrees with my perspective that going to war after 9/11 was the wrong response. We had an incredible opportunity to not only build our standing in the world but to do more for world peace than at any moment before or since, and the Bush administration totally blew it. Messages of turning back hatred with love, of being a model for the world, of &quot;avenging&quot; those cowardly acts by creating a climate where no one in the future would have a reason to hate the US, builder of schools, hospitals, food-self-sufficiency projects, etc., would have led to very different outcomes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, in my latest book, Guerrilla Marketing Goes Green (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson), I discuss, in one of the later chapters, what that kind of ideal world might look like and how we could still get there. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to disagree, though, when you say he was elected, twice. The election irregularities in both 2000 and 2004 were staggering, and we will never know who *really* won either of those elections, but my strong sense is it wasn&#039;t Bush, either time. 94,000 people were denied access to the ballot in Florida in 2000 (never mind the hanging chads and false Buchanan votes and all the rest of it), most of them likely-Democratic voters. Similar problems of a smaller scale but still more than enough to swing the count took place in Ohio four years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I&#39;m absolutely delighted to see that someone who I think of as fairly conservative agrees with my perspective that going to war after 9/11 was the wrong response. We had an incredible opportunity to not only build our standing in the world but to do more for world peace than at any moment before or since, and the Bush administration totally blew it. Messages of turning back hatred with love, of being a model for the world, of &#8220;avenging&#8221; those cowardly acts by creating a climate where no one in the future would have a reason to hate the US, builder of schools, hospitals, food-self-sufficiency projects, etc., would have led to very different outcomes.</p>
<p>BTW, in my latest book, Guerrilla Marketing Goes Green (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson), I discuss, in one of the later chapters, what that kind of ideal world might look like and how we could still get there. <a href="http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com">http://www.guerrillamarketinggoesgreen.com</a></p>
<p>I have to disagree, though, when you say he was elected, twice. The election irregularities in both 2000 and 2004 were staggering, and we will never know who *really* won either of those elections, but my strong sense is it wasn&#39;t Bush, either time. 94,000 people were denied access to the ballot in Florida in 2000 (never mind the hanging chads and false Buchanan votes and all the rest of it), most of them likely-Democratic voters. Similar problems of a smaller scale but still more than enough to swing the count took place in Ohio four years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Marya Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/forgiveness-age-of-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-9116</link>
		<dc:creator>Marya Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good example, Ryan.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forgiveness is essential for oneself, because if you aren&#039;t able to forgive a person, you&#039;re still hooked into them emotionally, so in a sense they &quot;control&quot; you. That&#039;s not a good feeling.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forgiveness is finding yourself free of the offender. That&#039;s priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a good example, Ryan.  </p>
<p>Forgiveness is essential for oneself, because if you aren&#39;t able to forgive a person, you&#39;re still hooked into them emotionally, so in a sense they &#8220;control&#8221; you. That&#39;s not a good feeling.  </p>
<p>Forgiveness is finding yourself free of the offender. That&#39;s priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jezek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Jezek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, forgiveness is something you and I can identify with and value. It&#039;s a part of our culture. But this is not a cultural trait that many people around the world understand or would identify with. This sort of behavior by the people in question, that your post talks about, sees this act of kindness as weakness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, forgiveness is something you and I can identify with and value. It&#39;s a part of our culture. But this is not a cultural trait that many people around the world understand or would identify with. This sort of behavior by the people in question, that your post talks about, sees this act of kindness as weakness.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg&#8217;s Dangerous List Of Good Internet Marketers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveBrown</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post Ryan - I would like to comment on the difference between forgiving and passivity.   &lt;br&gt;â€Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.â€ -Martin Luther King, Jr&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And beyond just speaking up, we&#039;re often tested to see if we&#039;ll Stand-up. &lt;br&gt;True pacifists only survive under the protection of those willing to fight.  &lt;br&gt;King, Gandhi and others (who lived long enough to have an impact) have one thing in common - they were appealing to the better nature of basically civilized peoples.  Those we face now - certainly the ones who knocked down the towers - are the modern version of India&#039;s Thuggee - and deserve the same fate.  &lt;br&gt;How far a man&#039;s sense of community and justice for all extends beyond the square yard he stands on is a big, personal question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But back to Rev King - every community needs its members to call out bad practices and bad guys. When you know bad stuff is being done you call it and name names. If you&#039;re willing, you also actively work to prevent it. It&#039;s never a happy place to be and it can end badly for those with the courage to do so -- but there&#039;s a reason we don&#039;t write books about those who watched it on TV or volunteered for Headquarters-only duty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand that many follow the choice to NEVER to say anything, never stick their head up -- always provide happy entertainment, and forever &quot;positive affirmations&quot; and upbeat this and that - fine. Good for them and their business. Not everyone has the cajones of Gandhi, or King, or a USMC Lance Corporal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A applaud the courage of your prior post and respect your personal decision to forgive or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post Ryan &#8211; I would like to comment on the difference between forgiving and passivity.   <br />â€Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.â€ -Martin Luther King, Jr</p>
<p>And beyond just speaking up, we&#39;re often tested to see if we&#39;ll Stand-up. <br />True pacifists only survive under the protection of those willing to fight.  <br />King, Gandhi and others (who lived long enough to have an impact) have one thing in common &#8211; they were appealing to the better nature of basically civilized peoples.  Those we face now &#8211; certainly the ones who knocked down the towers &#8211; are the modern version of India&#39;s Thuggee &#8211; and deserve the same fate.  <br />How far a man&#39;s sense of community and justice for all extends beyond the square yard he stands on is a big, personal question.</p>
<p>But back to Rev King &#8211; every community needs its members to call out bad practices and bad guys. When you know bad stuff is being done you call it and name names. If you&#39;re willing, you also actively work to prevent it. It&#39;s never a happy place to be and it can end badly for those with the courage to do so &#8212; but there&#39;s a reason we don&#39;t write books about those who watched it on TV or volunteered for Headquarters-only duty.</p>
<p>I understand that many follow the choice to NEVER to say anything, never stick their head up &#8212; always provide happy entertainment, and forever &#8220;positive affirmations&#8221; and upbeat this and that &#8211; fine. Good for them and their business. Not everyone has the cajones of Gandhi, or King, or a USMC Lance Corporal.</p>
<p>A applaud the courage of your prior post and respect your personal decision to forgive or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hating people is like burning down your own house to get rid of a rat.&quot; Harry Emerson Fosdick&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Forgiveness is almost a selfish act because of its immense benefits to the one who forgives.&quot; Lawana Blackwell&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When we harbor bad thoughts or feelings of revenge, or even feel like we have been wronged, or find ourselves thinking we need to forgive, we keep resending resentment and negative thoughts to ourselves and others. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we can forgive, we can stop burning down our own emotional and spiritual houses ... and the houses of others. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we can forgive, we can stop resending resentment and negative thoughts to ourselves and others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn&#039;t mean we forget the lesson that was brought to us, or our need to interpret and find new ways to communicate and behave in a manner that honors our personal values and spirit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for this discussion Ryan! Great food for thought!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Diane Anderson&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;p.s. Now ... how do we communicate better and come up with solutions that create experiences where we don&#039;t end up harboring resentment? A good question for copywriter(s) that use &quot;problem/solution&quot; writing techniques!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m just getting my writing services up and running and have heard that in these days and times, it&#039;s important to get &quot;up-front&quot; money for one&#039;s projects!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any other suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hating people is like burning down your own house to get rid of a rat.&#8221; Harry Emerson Fosdick</p>
<p>&#8220;Forgiveness is almost a selfish act because of its immense benefits to the one who forgives.&#8221; Lawana Blackwell</p>
<p>When we harbor bad thoughts or feelings of revenge, or even feel like we have been wronged, or find ourselves thinking we need to forgive, we keep resending resentment and negative thoughts to ourselves and others. </p>
<p>If we can forgive, we can stop burning down our own emotional and spiritual houses &#8230; and the houses of others. </p>
<p>If we can forgive, we can stop resending resentment and negative thoughts to ourselves and others.</p>
<p>It doesn&#39;t mean we forget the lesson that was brought to us, or our need to interpret and find new ways to communicate and behave in a manner that honors our personal values and spirit.</p>
<p>Thanks for this discussion Ryan! Great food for thought!</p>
<p>Diane Anderson</p>
<p>p.s. Now &#8230; how do we communicate better and come up with solutions that create experiences where we don&#39;t end up harboring resentment? A good question for copywriter(s) that use &#8220;problem/solution&#8221; writing techniques!</p>
<p>I&#39;m just getting my writing services up and running and have heard that in these days and times, it&#39;s important to get &#8220;up-front&#8221; money for one&#39;s projects!</p>
<p>Any other suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: annkensek</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps- Sometimes forgiving ourselves is hardest of all, like when we naively work for someone on a promise for payment on work completed, when we keep our word and they don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps- Sometimes forgiving ourselves is hardest of all, like when we naively work for someone on a promise for payment on work completed, when we keep our word and they don&#39;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself. Thanks for contributing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ryan</description>
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<p>I couldn&#39;t have said it better myself. Thanks for contributing.</p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: John Holzmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Holzmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When we say &quot;forgive and forget,&quot; I think the &quot;forgetting&quot; part is really about forgetting the emotions -- not what actually happened. You can&#039;t really forget bad stuff that happens to you. But you can let go of the negative emotions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice, Ryan! I had never thought of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When we say &#8220;forgive and forget,&#8221; I think the &#8220;forgetting&#8221; part is really about forgetting the emotions &#8212; not what actually happened. You can&#39;t really forget bad stuff that happens to you. But you can let go of the negative emotions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice, Ryan! I had never thought of that.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight.</p>
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