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StumpMarkus July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm

Ironic that Ryan Google +1′d me to let me know that a Google boycott might be in order. That’s f*cked up.

Members of my private Marketing Junkies’ Club are DRILLED into the concept of having multiple streams of traffic and income.

And to steal a famous Caple’s headline, “They laughed at me when I told ‘em that Google is a from for the NSA, but when they got slapped…”

Google is an essential arm of the NSA. Matt Cutts is ex-NSA. Google is an NGO (Non-Governmental Organization) in disguise as some “do no evil” tech company.

Google cutting off accounts has nothing to do with money or profits. 

It’s all about control.

They help the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This trick has been used on the profane and the masses for donkey’s years.

Of course a regular private company wouldn’t drop $30,000.00 accounts without explanation. (Actually, Google has dropped 6-figure accounts without explanation, either.)

Heck, I wouldn’t drop a $100 client without explanation. And neither would any of us, right?

Never forget the word Government in Latin is:
Govern: “Control”
Ment: (e.g. as in mental) is “mind”

“Control your mind.”

And the idea that switching to Bing or Yahoo! to protest is a sick joke, Ryan. They’re the same company with different names. There is no competition. Just look at board of directors of any big company… for example, the CEO of Google was once on the board of Apple. Google’s new Prize.org lets you login under your FaceBook account. I can list thousands of examples of these weird, noncompetitive synergies.

We’ve been had. And the sheeple still believe in Santa Claus.

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm

It is ironic… but I reach people how they want to be reached. Also, I made sure to specify “Google Search.” It would be very impractical to boycott all things Google. But switching to a different search engine is easy and could tip the balance of power enough that Google adopts friendlier customer service policies.

In the end, I’m not against Google’s products — I’m against their piss-poor “one strike and you’re out” approach to customer service. And one of the only ways to force change that I know of is to help create competition.

John Thomas July 20, 2011 at 5:16 am

Markus,

I might add that when you dissect the word “politics” you find that “poli” comes from the Latin meaning “many,” and “tics” are “blood sucking creatures.”

Of course, you already knew this…

- John

Ryan Healy July 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm

Now that’s just crazy talk right there… ;-)

John-Boy Kane July 27, 2011 at 7:50 pm

 BINGO!

Courtney_Houde July 19, 2011 at 2:30 pm

Unfortunately it’s not just Google slapping people silly. The same thing was happening to a lot of people who switched over to Facebook PPC ads as well.

Buying traffic isn’t as brain dead simple as it used to be. Or as cheap.

It’s harder to boycott Google when we use so many of their services. We shouldn’t forget that they also own YouTube as well. :(

Don’t even get me started on Google+.

When I heard the words Google+ I got goose bumps. It was like some prehistoric beast was sneaking up behind my back waiting to munch on my bones.

The internet isn’t the free paradise of low-hanging fruit it used to be for so many. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of new business owners who don’t know that…

Being sold a lot of old info on how to market themselves.

Though it feels as though this topic has been beaten to death. It won’t feel that way when the Internet is no longer the land of opportunity it once was…

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Courtney – Thanks for the comment. Yes, Facebook has some interesting policies, but they’re currently easier to work with than Google is.

Also, I’m not suggesting a total boycott of Google, only a boycott of their search engine. As I replied to Markus above:

“I made sure to specify Google Search. It would be very impractical to boycott all things Google. But switching to a different search engine is easy and could tip the balance of power enough that Google adopts friendlier customer service policies.”

Empire Steals Daily Deals July 19, 2011 at 2:40 pm

Preach
on Ryan!! same thing happened to me where we were running adwords for
several months and bam…just like that they canceled it without notice
or word or explanation…even after repeated attempts to find out why so
we could change it but they had no answers

Ryan Healy July 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm

I feel your pain!

Jana A. Murray July 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Sounds like a case for the InfoWars team…

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm

Haha! Seriously…

Although as soon as that happens, the idea that Google is suspending AdWords accounts will no longer be a fact, but a “conspiracy.”

Adam Davis July 19, 2011 at 3:32 pm

Great post Ryan. Had similar experience with adwords and have learned to deal with it as some of the other commentors have. I hope you are right about Bing be an up and coming competitor.

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 3:47 pm

In my estimation, Bing is the only search engine with enough resources to give Google a run for their money. The irony of switching to a Microsoft company because Google is too big is not lost on me. But I don’t see any other viable competitors in the search market at the moment.

Blekko is growing, but they’re still small and don’t offer PPC advertising. Maybe they’ll grow into a viable competitor.

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm

By the way, here’s an interesting interview with the founders of Blekko:

http://www.techcrunch.tv/watch?id=l4dmtrMTrlyjsC41_mk1jkhPs2NJ1KeA#ooid=l4dmtrMTrlyjsC41_mk1jkhPs2NJ1KeA

John Lenaghan July 19, 2011 at 11:03 pm

Trying to get answers out of Google about anything is pretty much impossible. Even their help and support pages seem to take you in circles. It’s kind of ironic that a company that prides itself on the ability to help people find answers on the internet can’t even provide answers to their own (paying) customers.

Almost as ironic as you putting an ad for Perry Marshall’s Adwords course under this post :-)

Ryan Healy July 19, 2011 at 11:09 pm

Oh, that’s funny. I have an ad rotator that randomly places ads between posts on my blog… and I haven’t updated the ads in about a year. Good reminder that I need to do that — and soon! :-)

Ryan Healy July 29, 2011 at 3:19 pm

P.S. Spent some time yesterday updating the ads on my site. Removed the one promoting Perry’s AdWords course… now promoting Perry’s free Facebook training. :-)

Brett Borders July 20, 2011 at 12:16 am

Sorry to hear this! Unbelievable that they’d decline business from a long-time, paying customer with no explanation. 

Ryan Healy July 20, 2011 at 1:55 am

Thanks, Brett. Fortunately, I wasn’t using AdWords for much of anything, so the impact on my business was insignificant. But since publishing this post, all kinds of people are coming out of the woodwork. I just talked to a guy today who had his AdWords account suspended… and his business dropped 40-50% almost immediately.

Ken July 20, 2011 at 6:01 am

That’s a real good reason to be diversified. Don’t have all your marketing eggs in one basket. I’m afraid it’s far too late to overthrow Goggle with Bing. Of course David got Goliath. I’m afraid that Google has become so powerful that nothiing short of government legislation will stop them. They can pretty much get away with anything they want to do.

Ryan Healy July 20, 2011 at 11:37 am

I’m sure it must seem crazy to think Google could ever be less than it is. But Blockbuster has given way to Netflix (and Hulu, etc.). Big phone companies are finally giving way to VOIP like Skype and Ooma. And so forth.

So there is hope. :-)

Of course, if Google is a front for the NSA as Markus and others suggest, then government legislation against Google will merely be used to make the public believe the government is “trying to do something.”

Guest July 20, 2011 at 12:31 pm

Sorry to hear about this. My Facebook account was shut for two months because of a virus – no help from Facebook.

Ryan Healy July 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm

That’s strange… was it a virus on your web site that caused Facebook to shut down your account?

Ryan Healy July 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm

Dave,

Yep, although Google only mentioned RyanHealy.com when they suspended my account, I strongly suspect some of my old deleted campaigns influenced their decision.

Back in 2006, I used the Google Cash method for a couple months as a test — basically linking straight to affiliate products from AdWords. I deleted those campaigns because I found they were not profitable.

As far as PPC Renegade goes… never heard of them, but their promises sound good. :-)

Ryan

Jim Rodante July 21, 2011 at 3:28 am

Eventually this spitting in their customer’s faces will hurt them badly. What’s even scarier than having your Adwords account suspended is having your Adsense account suspended. I’ve read horror stories of people who were owed 5-figures in Adsense commissions and Google unilaterally shut them down, gave no reason, and refused to pay them their rightfully earned income.

Dictatorships always, always fall.

Ryan Healy July 21, 2011 at 2:25 pm

Hey Jim – I’ve heard the same thing about Adsense accounts. Fortunately, mine is still active. But it’s a small amount of income, so losing it wouldn’t be a major event for me.

But for people who depend on Adsense, it’s a totally different story.

Anonymous July 21, 2011 at 10:28 am

Although I COMPLETELY agree on Google acting like a monopoly and basically being a “Hitler of online advertising”… I nearly always get a response back from them.

The trick is being NICE to them. Show that you’re actively trying, genuinely are trying to help people and promote a good site, etc. and they’ll help.

They do for me at least :)

I don’t promote my copy services on there anymore though as they don’t allow testimonials/success stories, etc. And having no proof of my results isn’t exactly a good way to get people to spend several grand to get copy written ;)

Jeremy

Ryan Healy July 21, 2011 at 2:28 pm

I’ve been nice to them in my correspondence — have never shown animosity toward them. Nevertheless, their “help” involves canned responses and apologies that they can’t help, there’s nothing they can do, etc.

I don’t think it’s logical or reasonable to expect a person to send 30 nice emails to get a resolution, which is how many emails one guy said he had to send before he got his AdWords account reinstated.

Anonymous July 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm

Ouch!

Maybe I’ve just been lucky then…

Yea, I totally agree that their customer service is despicable. And
definitely not reasonable/logical
to have to send 30 emails…

Adam Lantelme July 22, 2011 at 10:19 pm

It is interesting to say the least that Google’s corporate moto is “Don’t be evil.”

Of course they are just another company who espouses a sincerely altruistic mantra as a means to deceiving the masses.

When any entity, corporate or political has that much power, it’s very easy to squash the little guy. I would suspect that 30,000 dollars in spending for them is relatively small when compared to the behemoth spending budgets that larger ad groups have. 

It’s no different than dealing with cell phone companies. They are the only companies which you can get service from( huge monopolies) and it’s easier to get a divorce than it is to get out of your contract without paying an early termination fee. 

I would suspect something more devious, although I’m typically inclined to do that.

 But, for what it’s worth I think that I’ll try and stay away from the Big G, and I certainly won’t be doing any type of adwords advertising without expecting to take it hard from them.

Now if only I can get out of google +…

Ryan Healy July 29, 2011 at 3:21 pm

I think Google’s new motto is “Control the world with an iron fist.” Or something like that. :-)

Ryan Healy July 25, 2011 at 5:58 pm

Mike Filsaime created PayDotCom. It’s a competitor of ClickBank, but still uses PayPal.

Ryan Healy July 26, 2011 at 4:20 pm

Here’s a must-read article on Google’s latest round of unexplained Suspensions. This time, they’re suspending Google+ accounts. In some cases, they’re suspending people’s Google IDs entirely, blocking access to ALL Google services: Docs, G+, Adsense… everything!

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/google-plus-deleting-accounts-en-masse-no-clear-answers/567

Jim Sansi July 26, 2011 at 5:04 pm

@HeyHealy — Interesting article. But is 30k a month that much money compared to a big brand advertiser that will spend millions?

Just read an article in the SF Chronicle yesterday about how Wally World is gearing up to market there online presence, they even bought another company just to do so. And with a few billion dollars in the war chest you can bet your bippy they will drop a chunk with the big G.

@StumpMarkus:disqus — Never thought about that before. Hmm

Ryan Healy July 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm

The worth of a customer is always relative. So $30K a month may be an annoying zit on Google’s chin.

But if Google scorns the “small money,” I think they’re setting themselves up for a colossal fall.

Jim Sansi July 26, 2011 at 9:00 pm

Not saying I agree with the practice, just the way I see it. I have to believe unless they scorn some politician (or ally) and retain a monopoly on search it won’t change.

Perhaps Markus is right, there is something more big picture and nefarious going on. I could believe that when looking at my EPN account.

Francisco August 2, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Great info all, I am in the same boat since November 2010, and is just emails after emails coming from Adwords and account still suspended, an idea: since Google is public traded, and because of Google lack of good management they are loosing revenue to the stockholders, every $30K counts, if we make enough search engine noise, eventually the companies who own GOOG stock can make some pressure from the top.

Ryan Healy August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Clearly, pressure from the bottom is not working… yet. Since Google’s first allegiance is to shareholders, they might respond better to shareholder criticism.

Shel Horowitz-Green Marketer August 3, 2011 at 3:01 am

Timely for me. I don’t advertise on Google, but I have a page on a certain popular cloud-based encyclopedia where apparently I’ve made a powerful enemy (and have a few defenders). At least there, the subject of whether my page stays or goes is fully public and open for discussion (and I can see how bizarre his reasoning is for wanting me out).

Unfortunately, I haven’t found a search tool that gives the quality of results that Google does–but I have my trust issues with them.

Good luck!

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