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	<title>Comments on: What to Do When a Sales Letter Fatigues</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed Agora does something similiar to this as well... first the 20 page letter and then a second recap page with all the bonuses, etc.

-Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed Agora does something similiar to this as well&#8230; first the 20 page letter and then a second recap page with all the bonuses, etc.</p>
<p>-Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Brodie</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see the two salesletters too Ryan - go on, you can show us!

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see the two salesletters too Ryan &#8211; go on, you can show us!</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Lebrun</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5975</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Lebrun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

I remember seeing a critique that harlan kilstein did for Fatloss4idiots.

In that letter, they asked for a minor commitment on the first page of the letter... that commitment being just a click. And each page, they built up the level of commitment until the last page asked for the order.

is this similar to what you&#039;re talking about? 

Here&#039;s that letter...

http://www.fatloss4idiots.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>I remember seeing a critique that harlan kilstein did for Fatloss4idiots.</p>
<p>In that letter, they asked for a minor commitment on the first page of the letter&#8230; that commitment being just a click. And each page, they built up the level of commitment until the last page asked for the order.</p>
<p>is this similar to what you&#8217;re talking about? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s that letter&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fatloss4idiots.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fatloss4idiots.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5974</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Glenn Livingston speaks, I listen. I&#039;ve seen him speak at the System Seminar. Brilliant guy in many ways.

I think the two-step approach works to separate the buyers from the lookers. It gives the folks with a penchant to buy even more reason to buy because they get more information supporting what they already believe.

On the other hand, the ones that click away probably weren&#039;t going to buy anyway. Especially if it&#039;s not a typical long sales letter. 

Besides, who said &quot;direct response&quot; is only direct response if you use a long sales letter. If I receive a postcard in the mail asking for a response from me, isn&#039;t that direct response?

And of course the only way to know what really works is to test.

Great job Ryan, and thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Glenn Livingston speaks, I listen. I&#8217;ve seen him speak at the System Seminar. Brilliant guy in many ways.</p>
<p>I think the two-step approach works to separate the buyers from the lookers. It gives the folks with a penchant to buy even more reason to buy because they get more information supporting what they already believe.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the ones that click away probably weren&#8217;t going to buy anyway. Especially if it&#8217;s not a typical long sales letter. </p>
<p>Besides, who said &#8220;direct response&#8221; is only direct response if you use a long sales letter. If I receive a postcard in the mail asking for a response from me, isn&#8217;t that direct response?</p>
<p>And of course the only way to know what really works is to test.</p>
<p>Great job Ryan, and thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Deck</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Deck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you brought this up now. 

I am adding a second page to the sales process for a client.  Instead of going straight to the sales page, sending them to a presale page that continue to build value and set up to order. A limited test showed a definite boost in sales.  

I was reluctant to do this at first since it added another click to the sales process, and everyone knows that the more clicks to buy drops sales (right?). But the test showed otherwise. So we have re-aligned the pricing and what is in each of the two packages.  

John Deck

PS. Another good piece Ryan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you brought this up now. </p>
<p>I am adding a second page to the sales process for a client.  Instead of going straight to the sales page, sending them to a presale page that continue to build value and set up to order. A limited test showed a definite boost in sales.  </p>
<p>I was reluctant to do this at first since it added another click to the sales process, and everyone knows that the more clicks to buy drops sales (right?). But the test showed otherwise. So we have re-aligned the pricing and what is in each of the two packages.  </p>
<p>John Deck</p>
<p>PS. Another good piece Ryan.</p>
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		<title>By: Tian Yan</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5970</link>
		<dc:creator>Tian Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ryan, 

Thanks. That makes sense.
Sort of like a multipage salesletter that encourages the visitor to continue reading (because it looked short) and continue clicking until they reach the buy button.

Sweet!

Warmly,
- Tian Yan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ryan, </p>
<p>Thanks. That makes sense.<br />
Sort of like a multipage salesletter that encourages the visitor to continue reading (because it looked short) and continue clicking until they reach the buy button.</p>
<p>Sweet!</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
- Tian Yan</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Leister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Leister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

Congratulations for taking a chance and thinking outside the box.

At one point, all of the &quot;tested&quot; and &quot;proven&quot; strategies were untested and unproven, right?  Some smart (and perhaps crazy :) person had to be the first one to try just about everything...

I think that&#039;s how you hit home runs.

And who cares if it&#039;s not direct response?

If it works, it works.

Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>Congratulations for taking a chance and thinking outside the box.</p>
<p>At one point, all of the &#8220;tested&#8221; and &#8220;proven&#8221; strategies were untested and unproven, right?  Some smart (and perhaps crazy :) person had to be the first one to try just about everything&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s how you hit home runs.</p>
<p>And who cares if it&#8217;s not direct response?</p>
<p>If it works, it works.</p>
<p>Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Ratliff</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5968</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Ratliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

Great points here. 

The 2 page method you describe here works very well...and can be expanded upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>Great points here. </p>
<p>The 2 page method you describe here works very well&#8230;and can be expanded upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M. Healy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5967</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M. Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tian - The first page &quot;sells&quot; a click to the second page. They can&#039;t buy anything on the first page. The only thing they can do is click to the second page.

The second page then makes the sale and leads them to the ordering process.

Does that help to clarify?

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tian &#8211; The first page &#8220;sells&#8221; a click to the second page. They can&#8217;t buy anything on the first page. The only thing they can do is click to the second page.</p>
<p>The second page then makes the sale and leads them to the ordering process.</p>
<p>Does that help to clarify?</p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Tian Yan</title>
		<link>http://www.ryanhealy.com/sales-letter-fatigue/comment-page-1/#comment-5966</link>
		<dc:creator>Tian Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I get a better understanding of what you meant when you say &quot;it takes TWO pages to make the sale instead of one&quot; ? I&#039;m not getting the context of your new approach.

Warmly,
- Tian Yan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I get a better understanding of what you meant when you say &#8220;it takes TWO pages to make the sale instead of one&#8221; ? I&#8217;m not getting the context of your new approach.</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
- Tian Yan</p>
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