I’ve been in business since I was 12 years old.
Worked out a deal with the sales guys down at the Richmond model homes. I’d water all the plants in the model homes each Saturday and they’d pay me $5 cash. Not bad since it only took me an hour.
Gradually, I scaled up. Started mowing lawns, shoveling driveways, house sitting, baby sitting, delivering flyers, even raising money for mission trips by knocking on doors.
I officially entered the workforce at age 14, but I continued to think about how I could make it on my own, be my own boss. So at age 18 I became an Amway rep. And at age 21 or so, I took out a second mortgage to fund a very dumb business idea.
But I’m getting ahead of myself.
When I got married (I was only 20), it was like somebody lit a fire under me. All of a sudden, I wasn’t just interested in making money; I was driven. Honestly, a good portion of my drive was really just greed, which is why I was a sucker.
I was what they call a “hyper responder.” I’d buy just about anything that promised freedom and fortune. I bought programs about how to trade the commodities market (and I actually did that and made money); I bought programs on how to bet the horses; I even bought a program about how to become a “waste auditor.”
Most of these were relatively harmless pursuits since the total investment never topped more than a couple hundred bucks.
But as my drive intensified, I began to make larger investments.
I dropped $5,000 on a real estate investment course. I realized too late that I was uncomfortable using the techniques in the program; it was basically worthless to me.
And while that loss hurt, it didn’t hurt nearly as much as the next mistake I was about to make.
Blinded by Greed
One day I got a direct mail package that pitched the benefits of running your own vending business. I watched the video and saw testimonials from people who were making six figures a year, some as high as $400,000. At the time, it looked like a fantastic opportunity.
I decided to attend the local “seminar” to learn more about vending. The company was called Antares. Their goal was to sell vending machines.
By the end of the presentation, I was excited. Not only could you get vending machines from them, but they’d lock in your territory and even provide you with pre-printed direct mail pieces with a mailing list of local businesses.
It was the closest thing to guaranteed money I’d ever seen!
The only obstacle was how to raise the money I’d need to buy the vending machines. Three machines was roughly $20,000. You got a small price break if you bought five machines for $28,000.
Since I couldn’t see how the business could fail, I began to search for ways to raise $30,000 to pay for the machines plus the fairly hefty shipping fees.
First I went to a local bank. I figured they’d be more willing to work with me than a large institutional bank. My wife and I walked in and sat down with a banker, a really nice middle-aged man.
As we began to explain our plans, he became visibly concerned. “Look, I can’t fund a vending business. They’re notorious for having one of the highest failure rates of any type of business.”
In my head, I had already decided that I was going to do this, and I said so. It was clear the banker wasn’t going to budge on financing. But he was still concerned. So he did something almost nobody in business has ever done for me before or since: he tried to talk me out of buying.
“I’m going to take off my banker hat for a minute,” he said. “Look, if you were my own kids, I would still tell you not to do this. I just see way too much failure in the vending business, and I think you’d be wise to reconsider.”
We then wrapped up the conversation, said a friendly goodbye, and parted ways.
Of course, I was too blinded by my own greed to see the sincerity of the banker’s concern. And his objection only made me more determined. After all, I had been in Amway for three years. I knew what this guy was trying to do… he was trying to steal my dream!
And yet, in reality, he was probably the first honest banker I had ever met.
How I Raised $30,000 I Didn’t Have
At the time, real estate prices in Douglas County, Colorado, were skyrocketing. If you moved every year, you could pocket an extra $20,000 up to $50,000 depending on the size of your home. That’s how fast prices were rising.
In one neighborhood, the builder was raising the price of new builds by $15,000 every two weeks.
Even our one-bedroom condo had risen in value. In fact, based on the appraisal, I figured we could pull out $30,000 — just enough to cover our business investment.
So that’s what I did. Took out a second mortgage, bought the vending machines, and took delivery of them at our condo in Castle Rock. When the truck arrived, we unloaded the machines into our one-stall garage, excited to start our new venture.
The first step? Send out some direct mail, of course!
It’s the Quality of the List, Idiot!
At that time in my life, I’d never worked in direct marketing. I had no idea what a good response rate was. All I knew was this: I had five machines in my garage that needed to be placed.
So if I could get five people to respond who then wanted me to place one of my machines at their establishment, then I was on my way.
But I started to become a little concerned as I went down the list of names and businesses that were on the list Antares had provided me. Borders was on the list. So were a few other large franchises.
I thought to myself, “Why would a single location that is part of a national franchise have a start-up entrepreneur like me place a vending machine on their property? Heck, wouldn’t they do business with a national vending company to ensure consistency at every location? Isn’t that the point of a franchise?”
As I thought more and more about it, the quality of the list I’d been given was just not that great. I recall removing a few of the labels — like Borders — because I just couldn’t see them being my ideal target. It was privately owned businesses I was really after.
So I labeled my pre-printed direct mail pieces, paid the postage, and waited with fingers crossed to see what would happen next.
Responses? Well, Yes, But…
Within a week or two I had gotten two responses to my mailing — a big letdown. Fortunately, one of the responders had a large rented space in an office building, and they actually wanted TWO machines placed.
And, unfortunately, the other responder was a public school, and they only wanted HALF a machine. (The vending machines I had purchased were primarily beverage machines, but had a snack machine on the front. The two could be separated if needed.)
So I placed the machines and began business. That’s when I began to learn a whole bunch of things like:
- All the schools in Douglas County have exclusive contracts with Coca-Cola. Only Coke products can be sold in D.C. schools, and the vending contract is exclusive, too. This is why they only had me place a snack machine in their break room.
- It is very difficult to service vending machines when you have a full-time job, especially if the locations are far apart. Unless you’re bonded and insured, you can’t restock after hours.
- It is really not possible to run a vending route with a little 4-door sedan. You at least need a truck or van. A vending truck with a refrigeration system would be ideal.
- Some people drink gallons of Diet Coke. (I was servicing one machine almost every day, and it was ALWAYS sold out of Diet Coke — one of the reasons I was eventually told they’d signed on with a different vending company.)
- Canned drinks can actually expire. They don’t taste good after they’ve expired.
- Buying cases of soft drinks and candy from Sam’s Club every week becomes tedious… tedious to haul the products home, tedious to haul them back out to the machines.
- Unless you do really high volume, it is difficult to turn a profit. A small vending business is a money-losing proposition.
- It’s hard to run a business you’re not passionate about. (I’m health-minded, so selling junk food was completely out of alignment with my values.)
- If you post a $30,000 loss on your annual tax return, the IRS will probably audit you.
And another big lesson I learned:
- A successful direct mail campaign shouldn’t be built on a single mailing. And yet one mailing is all I had. It was mail and pray. There was no “Step 2″ if “Step 1″ didn’t work.
Older, Wiser, and Poorer
For about a year, I held onto the hope that I might be able to make my vending machine business work.
But slowly and surely reality sunk in. I realized I wasn’t passionate about my business, and that my fledgling company was really an albatross around my neck. I didn’t want to run vending routes and I didn’t want vending machines.
So I began to look for ways to sell them.
I logged onto eBay and began to see what my competition looked like.
My heart sank.
Most people don’t know it until it’s too late, but used vending machines sell for pennies on the dollar, literally. A machine that sold for $6,000 new might sell for a couple hundred bucks used.
It was devastating, but I listed the machines anyway. Nobody responded (except one guy who contacted me with a question). I guess I wasn’t surprised. There were dozens and dozens of vending machines up for sale. I’d never seen so much supply and so little demand.
The auction expired and I still had my machines.
That’s when the “one guy” called me back. I’ll never forget him.
“You still have your machines?” he asked.
“Yep, I still have them,” I said.
“Well, I can give you $1,000 for all of them. If you agree, I’ll be by to pick them up tomorrow.”
I felt such a mix of disappointment and relief — disappointment because I realized just how much money I had lost; relief because the machines would be gone and I could “start over,” so to speak.
I said yes. He paid me, took the machines, and I was able to close that chapter of my business life. (Actually, that’s not entirely true. I still had to deal with the audit that followed. THAT was the final chapter.)
Heed the “Dream Stealers”
As I reflect on that time in my life, I distinctly remember two things:
- The banker who gave me good counsel, which I ignored.
- The savvy businessman who patiently waited to buy my machines for a rock-bottom price.
Sometimes it’s good to listen to the so-called “dream stealers.” You may think they’re being negative and trying to kill your ambition when really they may be trying to save you from making an exceedingly foolish decision.
And the real winner in this story was the savvy businessman. When he came to my condo to get the machines I asked him a few questions about his business. Turns out he had placed dozens of machines, but had never purchased them new. He had simply waited for foolish entrepreneurs to take the big financial hits, then bought up their machines for a fraction of the retail value.
He was cleaning up the mess left behind by Antares, a massive biz-opp company that preys on fools. And I’m sure he was doing well. Certainly, with so little invested in machines, he was able to turn a profit when I was not.
I’ll end with a verse, Proverbs 15:22: “Without consultation, plans are frustrated, But with many counselors they succeed.” Keep that in mind the next time you’re making a big financial decision, business or otherwise.
-Ryan M. Healy
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Hey Ryan, thanks for sharing you story! I imagine it couldn’t have been easy to write about this and remember that difficult part of your life.
I know a lot of success gurus tell us to beware of naysayers, people who discourage us from pursuing our dreams.
You’re right to remind us that we need to forge ahead with prudence and to seek wise counsel. Finding the latter is another matter. I like to choose mentors who have achieved my goals, or something similar, and are living the type of lifestyle I dream of living.
Thanks again for this reminder!
Glad you enjoyed my story, Lexi. It was painful at the time, but I now value that experience. Who knows… maybe it’s saved me from making even worse decisions. :-)
$30K. Ouch. Many 21-year-olds have that much student loan debt, if not more, and don’t have a valuable lesson like the one you learned to show for it yet.
Fortunately, the sale of my condo covered most of my loss. I only had to bring about $1,500 to the closing table to sell my condo.
Ryan,
I’m busy as hell. A client of mine is on the verge of launching a huge site in just a couple of days. On top of that I’m leaving for Florida in three days. I was only planning to just glance this piece over, but you kept me roped in until the bitter end.
Think of it this way: should your kids become business-minded they will have quite a great dad to consult with.
Thanks for the compliment, John! And enjoy your trip to Florida. :-)
I went to one of those Antares presentations and walked out psyched about it. I totally wanted to come up with the money somehow. Fortunately for me, my ADD got the best of me and I forgot about the vending machine business since I couldn’t come up with any money for it.
Interestingly, one of my girlfriend’s uncles has a vending machine business that he started from scratch. He’d buy machines from people that were going out of business and place them. He has a couple of vans to restock his machines and is doing well enough to pay for 2 kids in college without breaking a sweat.
ADD… that would’ve come in handy back then. ;-)
Vending can be a good business for the right person who builds up slowly, shops for bargains, etc.
Ryan,
People used to ask me about why people could hug and kiss a person to whom they just sold a house at a significant discount. It never occurs to anyone that a car, vending machines, medical machines (Pursuit of Happiness), and even a house could ever be an albatross around anyone’s neck.
This is a great story. I find that American cultural biases include a propensity to be “bright-sided” about how the world really is…whether that’s the reality or not.
Gogo
Thank you, Gogo. It’s true — when you become a “don’t wanter,” you’re actually relieved when somebody takes the unwanted item off your hands!
Thanks Ryan that was great –
I had a similar experience with a Computer Business Opportunity (CBSI I think) I lost about $12k. I even went as far as going to the Small Business Administration and speaking to one of their mentors about my “Idea” he said that he didn’t think it was a winner and I should move on. I, of course, thought it was a great idea and I had already made up my mind – well It was a looser – $12,000 lesson.
Chalk one up to experience…ml
Thanks for sharing your story, Mike. Any lesson over $10K is painful in my book. Ouch!
Hey Ryan,
I’m glad you got out of this without bankruptcy or ruined credit.
Like Stephen Jones would say, “Thank God our God is a God of restoration!” One way or another, you’re going to get this back.
Yes, thank God. He’s always merciful even when I don’t deserve it. :-)
Ryan, your blog is always so real and refreshing!
I think it’s similar to what Barbara Ehrenreich talks about in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo
When I look back and reminisce about my naivety in casually dismissing the naysayers throughout my life, it’s truly embarrassing, not to mention costly! Strangely enough, one of my stories also cost me $30K — revolving around two separate timeshares, both owned by the same man and his son. The schemers took off with all the investors’ money.
Thankfully, we’ve all been gifted with an ability to learn from our mistakes! :)
Thank you, Michael! My guess is a lot of us entrepreneurs have at some point lost large sums of money on a bad investment. Great video, by the way — that whiteboard animation is awesome!
I enjoyed reading about your interesting childhood, Ryan. Thanks for sharing that.
About listening to naysayers vs ignoring them — you just have to analyze the person’s motives, psychology, their fears, and background. It’s hard to advise one way or another.
Anyway, maybe you are a happier person today than you would’ve been if you hadn’t gone through the painful vending business experience. At least I’m grateful you went through it…it made for an entertaining post :P
MK – Glad you enjoyed the post!
If the Lord did not break your peace during this investment/ failure process, then He was trying to teach you something through this experience. If He DID break your peace, then He was trying to warn you to turn away from this opportunity, but you did not heed His call. Either way, we learn …. the more expensive the education, the more we should honor the lesson and commit to not repeating it. I know a couple who made no money in Amway for years. Through persistence, I understand that they have been making $10k per month with $30k bonuses. They were taught that persistence pays.
As you point out, the key is hearing and heeding God’s voice. Easy to know, hard to do. :-)
@Ryan
You violated cardinal rule #1 in the vending business. Never ever ever buy new machines. At one time I ran a small route of just bulk candy machines, the kind you stick a single quarter in. It was pretty profitable for the time put in.
Jim – I absolutely did. Wish I had known about that rule beforehand…
Ryan,
NIce post and thanks for the link.
Funny because my parents worked for a vending company and the owners did pretty much what that businessman did–bought up used machines and placed them them on established coffee routes they already had. Pretty good business, but it is volume-driven to say the least.
I don’t know where that whole “dream-stealer” thing originated. I’ve seen it once in a Jack Canfield book. But I always wondered about it because if someone was trying to steal your dreams how come THEY aren’t jumping on the bandwagon and taking it for themselves instead of telling you it’s a bad idea.
Re: the phrase “dream stealer.”
I’m not sure where it originated, but I heard it all the time on Amway tapes from the 1990s. It was a common phrase in the organization. My best guess is it originated there, but was picked up by other MLM companies and motivational speakers.
Thank you for the inspirational reflection Ryan. It’s interesting to reflect on the learning lessons we all have at hand if we will only look back and see them.
Jeff
You’re welcome, Jeff! You’re right: we all have stories, we just need to tell them.
A very important lesson I hope many people read!
Thanks, Jonathan!
I am sorry to hear you lost out on this endeavor. My parents actually placed vending machines as a side business when I was a kid. They always had a couple small businesses going along with the vending machines. I remember helping fill those machines- it was really a pain! Perhaps it worked for them because they also bought the machines used and they really only sold by word of mouth. It was definitely more of a supplemental income.
When I was right out of college I decided to sell supplemental health insurance door to door. My intention was to get a little practice in sales while applying for jobs as a pharmaceutical sales rep. I basically paid to go to training for one week which cost $1,200.00. I worked the job for about 4 weeks and came home depressed every day after someone either yelled at me for being on their property or called the cops. I quit after having sold only one policy and had to pay the company back for the training. I was devastated at the time, mostly because I was embarrased, but in hindsight it is maybe a little bit funny. Maybe. Lesson learned, right? Thanks for sharing your story.
I can’t imagine selling health insurance door to door… yikes! Must have been brutal. At least you didn’t lose too much money and you learned the lesson quickly. :-)
I was the one drinking all the Diet Cokes.
No regrets!
That makes sense. I hear it’s good lubricant for droids. ;-)
Ryan… you are such a good story teller.. I also like it when I hear you speak about things ..your conversational style enhances the story and your point… I would enjoy have an audio of the post at the same time I read it because I enjoy your authentic way… I didn’t experience those lessons until I was in my late 30′s… John Charles
Thank you, John! I appreciate the feedback. I did audio recordings for two of my posts a few months ago, but nobody said anything, good or bad. Maybe I should start creating the audio version again?
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